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North Middle & Outer

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Support
This is perfect, you want to do as much of this as possible, physical separation of bike "roads" and car "roads".
Suggestion
Flip the position of the street parking and the bike lanes. You need to protect these bike lanes from traffic, the use of street parking (which is also physically separated from the bike lane through bollards or even just planters) is the perfect way to do this and its not a drastic change change.
Suggestion
If you seriously want to get people to bike around you are going to have to make them feel safe and reduce the interactions between bikers and cars. Drivers don't like bikes on the road, bikers don't like being on the road with cars. Do everyone a favor and build them physically separated from the beginning.
Suggestion
A bicycle network is great, but if you're going to do fresh construction let's build it protected and ideally physically separated from the roads. No one likes mixing the two, drivers get annoyed by the cyclists who have bad etiquette and cyclists don't feel safe with cars rushing by at 35-40mph 2 feet away from you. Use bollards at the very least if not street parking and/or full grade separation like you would see prevalent somewhere like the Netherlands.
Suggestion
There needs to be a road extension on Gibbon Road. With two new developments being created, the area already has traffic when school starts and ends it will get worse.

A light at Old Statesville Rd and Pete Brown Rd, I have seen several near collisions since living here.
Concern
It appears that we are well on our way to meeting this goal, with townhomes and apartments being built just about anywhere you look. At what point will we know we have met the goal? It seems unwise to keep packing people in without an attendant focus on traffic management, shopping, and safe pedestrian pathways as described in Goal 1. How will the city coordinate with NC to make state-run roads more pedestrian-friendly and safe for drivers as well? Looking at you Mallard Creek Road.
Concern
Prosperity Village got their investment. Northlake and University are getting theirs in this plan. This missing middle has been forgotten.
Question
Where are these public play areas?
Concern
Why does this map show the greenway extensions as existing and then removes the existing Clarks Creek Greenway. There is no way this area (C5) aligns with aspirations. The only open spaces in this area are private property owned by various HOAs.
Question
Any movement on these greenway extensions? We've heard about them for 10+ years.
Concern
We need continuous sidewalks on Sugar Creek from Harris to Hucks Road -- not just the sidewalks mandated when lots are redeveloped. It is incredibly dangerous to have cars going 45mph minimum on roads with no shoulders trying to navigate around pedestrians.
in reply to Krystal Harwick's comment
this is a freight rail vehicle.
Concern
I've been in Prosperity Village area for 5 years. We badly need 1) a public kid's playground, 2) connecting sidewalks down DeArmon Road and a designated, between neighborhoods crosswalk, 3) expanded capacity for the 485 freeway entrance. It backs up badly rush hour so it can take 15 minutes to get the 1/2 mile onto the freeway. All these (luxury, rent-only) town homes have gone up, but there's not been roads or libraries or the services I would expect to see.
Suggestion
lane striping missing to show vehicle/bike lanes
Suggestion
this is a blue line light rail vehicle, this will be the red line commuter rail (see locomotives or multiple unit tainsets)
Suggestion
Red Line Derita Station
Suggestion
Red Line Derita Station is here.
Suggestion
Add Red Line and stations
Suggestion
Add Red Line and stations
in reply to Myasia Stephens's comment
Concern
Agreed. If they won’t put a full traffic signal at Hucks/Old Statesville, they at least need dedicated right turn lanes. They also need railroad crossing gates here. I saw a car get hit by a train not too long ago. Every day I see people stop on the tracks.
Concern
Definitely need a traffic signal at Old Statesville/David Cox and Old Statesville/Hucks Rd.
Suggestion
The tree canopy in well-established residential neighborhoods is why we moved here. The city is letting high density housing come in and completely clear out the trees. Incentivize developers to leave a large percentage of the trees when building new neighborhoods.
Suggestion
Improve congestion by adding dedicated right turn lanes at every intersection.
Suggestion
Our roads would be greatly improved if every intersection had dedicated right turn lanes. It makes no sense to leave construction of right turns up to developers. It should be standard for our roads like it is in most other places I had traveled or lived. Dedicated right turn lanes are safer, decrease commute times, and improve health by lowering stress.
Concern
The residents of this area do not want more apartments and higher density housing. We moved here 18 years ago because we liked that it was close to everything, but still had a lot of trees and open spaces. Developers are being allowed to take every vacant lot and add apartments and townhouses. Traffic is terrible at most times of the day, not just rush hour. Trees are being bulldozed. We moved from the MD/DC/NoVa area because they ruined it by filling in every green space. More apartments make single family houses less affordable.
Suggestion
add red line + Per conversation with Catherine Mahoney, add transit lines to all Illustrative Concept Maps
Suggestion
add red line
Suggestion
add red line
Suggestion
add red line
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Add red line
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Add red line
Suggestion
Add Red Line
Suggestion
The corner of Old Statesville Road and David Cox Rd is extremely unsafe and requires a traffic light. I’ve been informed by Charlotte DOT that no light can be installed because of the existing train tracks on OSR which will now be home to the Red Line. The only solution will be an overpass to be constructed running east-west along David Cox Rd which will go up and over OSR and over the red line and ending on the Lakeview Rd side.
Concern
The gas main at Carrier production facility’s gas main is near a fence at the bottom of an embankment near the corner of Hucks and Old Statesville Rd. Many cars have missed the turn onto OSR or avoided another accident and wound up just outside the fence nearly missing the gas main. On one occasion a school bus ran off the road when the driver had a seizure at the wheel and wound up inside Carriers fence coming to rest not far from the gas main. The gas main needs to be moved or better protected to avoid leveling this entire area.
This area could use a lot more work.
Charlotte will be known as the land of cheap townhouses. not the city of trees. We don't need more housing. We need more affordable housing. this does not translate to more development, it translated to the city doing its job and controlling the raising housing costs.
yay more parking lots. high on sarcasm here. expect the heat island effect to get worse.
not needed.
how will people get here on foot? where is the nearest public transit stop? bike lanes? Youre not implementing what you say you will....
honestly it doesnt feel like any of this is needed. youre just filling up the space to fill it up. where is the grocery store, public park, farmers market area, community garden etc.
Where is the bike lane going? This is street is nowhere near wide enough. Also not enough trees.
Again - why is the solution to wipe out the small pockets of trees we have left in the area??! You can do better than this guys. Just be more efficient with the spaces you've already botched with development here.
Isn't Nevin Park right here? Are we crowding it?! This seems like the opposite of what "you want".
Woof guys. This is bad.
Woof guys. This is bad.
Woof guys. This is bad.
This is a lie. Show metrics and how you came to this conclusion for proof.
in reply to Kelsea Skinner's comment
all of it, it seems.
Support
CC-7 ....this works but then the area gets developed and we're right back where we started. We had to prove the area desires these types of spaces in order for CC-8 to even happen and it's great when it does.....we just have to make sure other city departments like CDOT don't actively try to destroy the city's investment in these spaces.
Concern
quite frankly, city council isn't brave enough to make open space happen. In the past decade, C2 has had multiple opportunities to delegate space to be third spaces / public courtyards, parks, etc., but council continues to approves rezoning petitions for apartments, and they're not even affordable so I don't want to hear the "we need housing" argument. C2/C3 has precious few areas left to make a significant correction in this area, but will council align? Because this entire study means nothing if council continues to ACTIVELY vote against it.