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North Middle & Outer

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Suggestion
lane striping missing to show vehicle/bike lanes
Suggestion
this is a blue line light rail vehicle, this will be the red line commuter rail (see locomotives or multiple unit tainsets)
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Red Line Derita Station
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Red Line Derita Station is here.
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Add Red Line and stations
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Add Red Line and stations
in reply to Myasia Stephens's comment
Concern
Agreed. If they won’t put a full traffic signal at Hucks/Old Statesville, they at least need dedicated right turn lanes. They also need railroad crossing gates here. I saw a car get hit by a train not too long ago. Every day I see people stop on the tracks.
Concern
Definitely need a traffic signal at Old Statesville/David Cox and Old Statesville/Hucks Rd.
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The tree canopy in well-established residential neighborhoods is why we moved here. The city is letting high density housing come in and completely clear out the trees. Incentivize developers to leave a large percentage of the trees when building new neighborhoods.
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Improve congestion by adding dedicated right turn lanes at every intersection.
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Our roads would be greatly improved if every intersection had dedicated right turn lanes. It makes no sense to leave construction of right turns up to developers. It should be standard for our roads like it is in most other places I had traveled or lived. Dedicated right turn lanes are safer, decrease commute times, and improve health by lowering stress.
Concern
The residents of this area do not want more apartments and higher density housing. We moved here 18 years ago because we liked that it was close to everything, but still had a lot of trees and open spaces. Developers are being allowed to take every vacant lot and add apartments and townhouses. Traffic is terrible at most times of the day, not just rush hour. Trees are being bulldozed. We moved from the MD/DC/NoVa area because they ruined it by filling in every green space. More apartments make single family houses less affordable.
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add red line + Per conversation with Catherine Mahoney, add transit lines to all Illustrative Concept Maps
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add red line
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add red line
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add red line
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Add red line
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Add red line
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Add Red Line
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The corner of Old Statesville Road and David Cox Rd is extremely unsafe and requires a traffic light. I’ve been informed by Charlotte DOT that no light can be installed because of the existing train tracks on OSR which will now be home to the Red Line. The only solution will be an overpass to be constructed running east-west along David Cox Rd which will go up and over OSR and over the red line and ending on the Lakeview Rd side.
Concern
The gas main at Carrier production facility’s gas main is near a fence at the bottom of an embankment near the corner of Hucks and Old Statesville Rd. Many cars have missed the turn onto OSR or avoided another accident and wound up just outside the fence nearly missing the gas main. On one occasion a school bus ran off the road when the driver had a seizure at the wheel and wound up inside Carriers fence coming to rest not far from the gas main. The gas main needs to be moved or better protected to avoid leveling this entire area.
This area could use a lot more work.
Charlotte will be known as the land of cheap townhouses. not the city of trees. We don't need more housing. We need more affordable housing. this does not translate to more development, it translated to the city doing its job and controlling the raising housing costs.
yay more parking lots. high on sarcasm here. expect the heat island effect to get worse.
not needed.
how will people get here on foot? where is the nearest public transit stop? bike lanes? Youre not implementing what you say you will....
honestly it doesnt feel like any of this is needed. youre just filling up the space to fill it up. where is the grocery store, public park, farmers market area, community garden etc.
Where is the bike lane going? This is street is nowhere near wide enough. Also not enough trees.
Again - why is the solution to wipe out the small pockets of trees we have left in the area??! You can do better than this guys. Just be more efficient with the spaces you've already botched with development here.
Isn't Nevin Park right here? Are we crowding it?! This seems like the opposite of what "you want".
Woof guys. This is bad.
Woof guys. This is bad.
Woof guys. This is bad.
This is a lie. Show metrics and how you came to this conclusion for proof.
in reply to Kelsea Skinner's comment
all of it, it seems.
Support
CC-7 ....this works but then the area gets developed and we're right back where we started. We had to prove the area desires these types of spaces in order for CC-8 to even happen and it's great when it does.....we just have to make sure other city departments like CDOT don't actively try to destroy the city's investment in these spaces.
Concern
quite frankly, city council isn't brave enough to make open space happen. In the past decade, C2 has had multiple opportunities to delegate space to be third spaces / public courtyards, parks, etc., but council continues to approves rezoning petitions for apartments, and they're not even affordable so I don't want to hear the "we need housing" argument. C2/C3 has precious few areas left to make a significant correction in this area, but will council align? Because this entire study means nothing if council continues to ACTIVELY vote against it.
Concern
where is the focus on green space and third places ? Not sure how you can have a goal to improve both parking AND pedestrian network / bike network at the same time. Focus on sidewalks and bike networks and connect them to actual gathering places like parks, not paved parking lots, we already have enough of those. M2 and M3 has absorbed enough housing.....now all of these people are here and they have to drive somewhere to walk their dog on grass, or drive to find a park to play with their kids....the 10 min amenity goal must include green spaces and third places, not just more dry cleaners.
Concern
The number one priority in 10 out of the 15 neighborhoods is for housing availability? There is no shortage of housing or apartments we have vancancies because they overbuilt! So the only reasonable conclusion is that the study suggests our housing prices are too high? That's capitalism...you can't control the market prices or the macro-economic environment. Just because I want to live in quail hollow doesn't give me the right or mean they should build cheap duplexes so I can. This study focuses on a far-left socialist agenda rather than real ways to improve the city. Genuinely curious how many tax dollars were spent on this study to tell us we need more of this race here and that race there. Charlotte councilemen let me save you some of our money in the future build bike lanes and improve walkability.
Question
When is this future avenue expected to be constructed? The Northfield Crossing/ Aberdeen / Cooper Ridge neighborhoods currently have to take a circuitous route to access outer 485 and the shopping centers/ amenities on the other side of 485. These neighborhoods are also in sidewalk island; we don't have sidewalk access to our nearest grocery stores/ shopping center / Mallard Creek Community Park!
Concern
We need to find a way to encourage construction companies to not bulldoze every established tree if we ever want "tree-shaded" walks anywhere. I understand it's easier and more efficient for them.... But it's ugly and unpleasant.
Concern
I can't imagine how you arrived at this evaluation. I live near a greenway, but there are no parks remotely near me - I think the nearest one is at least a 15 minute DRIVE from our house off of Harris Blvd. Note that things like soccer fields should NOT be considered the same as a park, where people can go to be in nature, walk, have picnics, or whatever. An athletic facility is completely different from a park.
Concern
It appears your intent is only to provide the desired features for people in newly built, mainly high-density places. That means that you have no intention to provide these desirable things to any of the people who are already here. That is not a good plan. It does nothing to improve the livability for any of the tens of thousands of people who live here now.
in reply to Todd's comment
Never mind - I see now that this section is for "Vacant". (I find the format and language in this document very confusing.)
Concern
You only mention FUTURE NEIGHBORHOODS. Most of our area is already developed - don't your goals apply to all of us? - or just new development? It's not very useful if it only applies to the small fraction of the area that is not already developed.
Concern
I do not see anything in this paragraph about the "amenities" you say you want within a 10 minute safe walk.
Question
How do you intend to change existing development so that people are within a 10 minute safe walk from these amenities? I do not see any play that talks about adding new retail centers or other amenities where there are now houses or other things.
Concern
We already have FAR TOO MANY APARTMENTS in this area, and they are building more as fast as they can. It is ruining the character of the area, and horribly increasing traffic. If your goal is to shift our area even more to cheaply built apartments, you are definitely doing the OPPOSITE of what the people living here want. I have never heard a single person say anything favorable about the tons of new apartment buildings - but I constantly hear people with very negative views about it.
Question
Across all regions, what is the average percentage of plan area recommended to evolve?
Question
How much of the region is currently not in a ten-minute neighborhood?