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Please review the draft conceptual design below and leave a comment to share what you like or dislike about the draft design, or to ask the project team a question.
The City of Durango is working on an effort called Downtown’s Next Step, which starts with a conceptual design for changes and improvements to Downtown Main Avenue (between 5th Street and 14th Street). This effort will consider all the elements of Main Avenue from building face to building face, including patios, sidewalks, street trees and other landscaping, bicycle facilities, vehicle lanes, parking, crosswalks, and more.This process was initiated based on previous City planning efforts and the draft conceptual design has been developed through extensive community and stakeholder outreach since Fall of 2021.
Next Steps: Following this conceptual design effort, further analysis and engineering will take place to refine the design. This will include a Comprehensive Parking Plan, Traffic Analysis, and more. For more information about the draft conceptual design, timeline, and previous analysis done during this effort, please visit the project website: DurangoGov.org/DowntownMain.
Thank you for your time participating in this important effort!
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ryanm@migcom.com Nov 8 2022 at 2:06PM on page 1
I like this one best!
ryanm@migcom.com Nov 8 2022 at 2:04PM on page 1
Agreement
This is exciting!
Tracy L Reynolds May 20 2022 at 5:09PM on page 1
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Could this drive be closed off, and just have access from Narrow Gauge?
Tracy L Reynolds May 20 2022 at 5:06PM on page 1
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This is on private property, is the city building the plaza? Also there is a basement under this for the furniture store.
Tracy L Reynolds May 20 2022 at 5:04PM on page 2
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I don't understand why the paving pattern is different here? Am I missing some sort of design theme?
Tracy L Reynolds May 20 2022 at 5:03PM on page 1
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Why not add a little parking here for the park, since you have the extra "park experience" walk, and have the room?
Tracy L Reynolds May 20 2022 at 4:59PM on page 1
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It would be great to see this drive and private parking go away!
Tracy L Reynolds May 20 2022 at 4:57PM on page 1
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The property owners should be encouraged to remove these--these are a remnant of when Wells Fargo Bank occupied several buildings here.
CN May 20 2022 at 2:38PM on page 1
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I'm not crazy about using the same paver materials for both vehicular and pedestrian traffic. Sure, it looks great! But it will only cause confusion, especially for first time tourists. Also, snowplows will eat those pavers for lunch.
Ilana Stern May 20 2022 at 12:58PM on page 2
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Is the lack of share-with-bikes signage on the southbound lane here an accidental omission or deliberate? Drivers need to be reminded bikes may be present, especially if they park in these angled slots as they may not be looking for bikes when they back up.
ANTHONY E ROCHA May 20 2022 at 8:45AM on page 1
I wonder if parallel parking may be called for as opposed to angle parking on 12th street east of Main. That is a proposed ingress/egress for the DFPD vehicles.
Rachel Taylor-Saghie May 18 2022 at 11:56PM on page 1
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Please look at Santa Barbara’s state street design… fewer lanes and only drop off spots, no parking. Safe, well embraced by everyone there…. Safer for pedestrians to relegate traffic away from pedestrian traffic… too many pedestrians getting hit in Durango with lights turning green and pedestrian traffic receiving same green signal….. Santa Barbara has a great model…. Keeps pedestrians safe. Trying to squeeze traffic lanes and wider sidewalks is dangerous….
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Enrique Orozco-Perez May 16 2022 at 4:12PM on page 2
No, you are making main street more accesible and pleasant. This is not about 2nd Ave or businesses outside of Main St. This is about Main St. and to revamp it is way overdue. The did the same in Gran Junction and the businesses have profited off it tremendously.
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Enrique Orozco-Perez May 16 2022 at 4:09PM on page 2
With the new law for cyclist, it does not matter. We can roll safely through red lights when it is safe and clear
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Enrique Orozco-Perez May 16 2022 at 4:08PM on page 2
Yes we need this and this literally affects your business zero percent.
Antonia Clark May 16 2022 at 1:25PM on page 2
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The bumpouts were important for helping restaurants during the pandemic. But now distancing inside the restaurants can be back at capacity. If they want more outside seating let them add small dining areas, like Chimayo and El Moro and Carvers have done; let them add roof top dining, like Eolus has, or backyard patios, like Ken and Sue, Carvers and Olde Tymers have. Why is it up to the City to expand sidewalks and provide prime commercial space (and charge next to nothing for it) so that private businesses can provide a nice amenity and expand their commercial space. You don't do that for other businesses, or restaurants that are on side streets or 2nd Ave. Gazpachos is not getting this benefit. In a sense you are funding their competition . Is that fair?
Antonia Clark May 16 2022 at 1:14PM on page 2
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Do we really need 17' sidewalks when the sidewalks are only crowded in July? The streets will seem deserted October-May (7 months) and the outdoor dining spaces will be empty. Is it worth it to spend $1 million/block and affect businesses with a huge construction project in order to have wider sidewalks?
Antonia Clark May 16 2022 at 1:13PM on page 2
Why not put the trolley stops on 2nd? If people can walk 1 or 2 blocks in order to have a parking spot,they can walk 1 or 2 blocks to the trolley stop. It might help businesses on 2nd by bringing them more pedestrian traffic, and help traffic flow on Main.
Antonia Clark May 16 2022 at 1:11PM on page 2
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With stop lights at 8th and 9th St, why would you put this here? It stops traffic and disrupts traffic flow. Cyclists are safer in flowing traffic than when they have to constantly stop and go. I can't imagine why anyone would think this is a good idea. Maybe you can tell me
Antonia Clark May 16 2022 at 1:07PM on page 2
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In 2013, the City committed to restricting Main ave stret closures to 4-5 / year. A lot of people spent a lot of time negotiating for this commitment because Main Ave Street closures hurt retail business. A few/year are OK. A lot of street closures (which are good for bar and restaurant businesses, but hurt retailers), are not.
These special blocks will result in more street closures.
2nd ave is the perfect place for these festival blocks.Main is not.
These special blocks will result in more street closures.
2nd ave is the perfect place for these festival blocks.Main is not.
Antonia Clark May 16 2022 at 1:03PM on page 1
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Handicap placards entitle disabled individuals to use open parking spaces but when you continually eliminate parking spaces on or near Main you remove those advantages and services. Sure, able bodied people can easily walk a few blocks but a disabled person can not. By eliminated public parking spaces you are eliminating the opportunity for disabled people to access and enjoy Downtown Durango.
Antonia Clark May 16 2022 at 12:58PM on page 2
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Public access to Downtown is provided by the River trail. If cyclists want a safe way to get to the CBD they can use the trail to various parts of Main. From there they can walk their bicycles if they are concerned about safety.
The best way to improve pedestrian and cyclist safety would be to invest the Federal dollars into expanding, and striping the River trail, so that more people will use it to get into town, and it will be safer. Currently, the lanes are too narrow for the amount of traffic that is there and they are only going to get more crowded. That is why a lot of cyclists take the roads an highways.
Those that do fly down the path at the same rate of speed they would use on a pubic street. Pedestrians often walk 3 or 4 abreast unconscious of bikers. Then there is the problem of the pedestrians with dogs on long leashes that can trip up a cyclist in no time.
The River trail is used and loved by locals. Tourists love it too. The trail, and adjacent parks, provides pleasant pedestrian and social gathering space 1-2 blocks from Main. Invest the money in a wider path, lighting and some center striping.
The best way to improve pedestrian and cyclist safety would be to invest the Federal dollars into expanding, and striping the River trail, so that more people will use it to get into town, and it will be safer. Currently, the lanes are too narrow for the amount of traffic that is there and they are only going to get more crowded. That is why a lot of cyclists take the roads an highways.
Those that do fly down the path at the same rate of speed they would use on a pubic street. Pedestrians often walk 3 or 4 abreast unconscious of bikers. Then there is the problem of the pedestrians with dogs on long leashes that can trip up a cyclist in no time.
The River trail is used and loved by locals. Tourists love it too. The trail, and adjacent parks, provides pleasant pedestrian and social gathering space 1-2 blocks from Main. Invest the money in a wider path, lighting and some center striping.
Antonia Clark May 16 2022 at 12:43PM on page 2
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I have recently read several articles on how CDOT is realizing that the warning signs they have next to the highways are actually a distraction and a hazard. When motorists take their eyes off the road they have more accidents. Adding distractions (Art Public Spaces, etc) next to the traffic lanes will distract drivers( who are already too distracted by their cell phones) and increase accidents. Our streets are already. Purchasing an using street and sidewalk sweepers would make it a while lot prettier with a lot less expense.
Antonia Clark May 16 2022 at 12:37PM on page 2
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As an avid cyclist I question the idea that bulbouts make cycling and walking safer. When I am riding I always look for "Safety spaces" that I can pull into to get away from traffic. In Durango there are red zones on every corner and (most of the time), empty trolley stops.
Bulbouts will take up space that is currently marked as red zones and trolley stops, and will narrow the space available for turning off Main onto a side street. Those "Safe" spaces that cyclist can pull into and let traffic subside, or let the guy that is following too close behind us go, by are critical. The Bulbouts will replace those spaces and make cycling more dangerous. They are the escape routs that are critical for bike safety.
The bulbouts will also put pedestrians, waiting to cross the street, right next to traffic and more at risk. Now, with 8 or 10" between the corner curb and traffic lanes, there is a safety space. If a driver is texting or looking at their phone, (which happens constantly), and weaves out of the traffic lane, they will be in the empty space in front of the curb or will hit a parked car. With bulbouts the pedestrians will be right next to traffic. I suggest that you leave the streets configured the way they are. The bulbouts will make pedestrians and cyclists less safe.
Bulbouts will take up space that is currently marked as red zones and trolley stops, and will narrow the space available for turning off Main onto a side street. Those "Safe" spaces that cyclist can pull into and let traffic subside, or let the guy that is following too close behind us go, by are critical. The Bulbouts will replace those spaces and make cycling more dangerous. They are the escape routs that are critical for bike safety.
The bulbouts will also put pedestrians, waiting to cross the street, right next to traffic and more at risk. Now, with 8 or 10" between the corner curb and traffic lanes, there is a safety space. If a driver is texting or looking at their phone, (which happens constantly), and weaves out of the traffic lane, they will be in the empty space in front of the curb or will hit a parked car. With bulbouts the pedestrians will be right next to traffic. I suggest that you leave the streets configured the way they are. The bulbouts will make pedestrians and cyclists less safe.
John Flick May 16 2022 at 12:06PM on page 2
No parking in front of our business. I don't like that.
Antonia Clark May 16 2022 at 12:03PM on page 2
Suggestion
Do we really need 17' sidewalks when the sidewalks are only crowded in July? The streets will seem deserted October-May (7 months) and the outdoor dining spaces will be empty.
Is it worth it to spend $1 million/block and affect businesses with a huge construction project in order to have wider sidewalks?
Is it worth it to spend $1 million/block and affect businesses with a huge construction project in order to have wider sidewalks?
Amanda May 12 2022 at 9:08PM on page 2
A mid-block crossing seems very unnecessary and will just cause traffic to get backed up more than it already does.
Masha Halavach May 12 2022 at 5:09PM on page 2
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How did "we need permanent outdoor dining solutions after COVID is over" turned into "re-do the whole entire Main"??? Think about how long this will take and how much it will cost.
John Angst May 11 2022 at 5:45PM on page 2
Suggestion
If this corner is a truck route then the design is inconsistent with larger trucks.
John Angst May 11 2022 at 5:42PM on page 2
Question
Why is this crossing necessary? If you expect people to walk from the transit center then why can't they walk to the corner?
John Angst May 11 2022 at 5:40PM on page 2
The bulbouts at corners will make turning very difficult for large trucks and tractor trailer units. The rear wheels will likely track over the bulbout resulting in damage and discoloration. This will be amplified by traffic in the turning lane causing delays in traffic.
Alma Evans May 5 2022 at 1:16PM on page 1
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How will you prevent cars traveling north crossing traffic to park in the angled spots?
Alma Evans May 5 2022 at 1:12PM on page 2
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The center delivery lane is essential for businesses. I would consider making some delivery zones on the side streets for Fedex vans and that type of delivery that use their side doors, not their rear doors.
Alma Evans May 5 2022 at 1:09PM on page 1
As a daily pedestrian visitor to Main, the bulbouts at each intersection are a great idea. This helps the pedestrian and vehicle sight lines as well as a traffic calming device. If nothing else, add these to each intersection.
Jennaye Derge May 4 2022 at 7:23PM on page 1
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What does "enhanced" mean?
Hallie Venaglia May 3 2022 at 3:08PM on page 1
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I love the general idea of making Main ave a more bike and walk-friendly area. Love the addition of trees and play spaces. However, if you are going through all of the hassle and effort to do any sort of construction on Main Ave. I don't understand why the traffic patterns aren't changing? According to the lane plan, the lane patterns will remain the same as they are at present, making me wonder where you are finding all of this extra pedestrian space? Why not change Main Ave to be a one-way street with a turning/ loading land (2 lanes going the same direction) and then add small directional bike lanes going in either direction. Keep parking on one side of the street (or both) and then you will have more space for the pedestrian zones and would encourage more people to walk instead of drive if they can only drive one direction. Some of the pictures that are included as examples are from places like Pearl Street which are pedestrain-only zones - don't get people's hopes and expectations up for a beautiful pedestrian area if you aren't actually creating that. This plan seems like a glorified sidewalk makeover, it's not actually changing anything.
Brian Devine May 2 2022 at 4:16PM on page 1
Suggestion
Consider back-in angle parking to maximize visibility for cyclists.
Will Walsh May 2 2022 at 2:40PM on page 2
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Please bring back the diagonal crosswalk. Also, make this intersection flow as College Drive, Main Avenue, OR Pedestrians: No combination of two or more.
Erica May 2 2022 at 11:33AM on page 2
I love the idea of the play area. It encourages people spending time relaxing downtown instead of driving in, eating or shopping and leaving. It's great that families can come, maybe get a coffee, ice cream, etc., and watch their kids play. I've seen spaces like this work really well in other cities.
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